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23rd Jun 2025

Get to know us and find out, "What Are We Even Talking About?"

This inaugural episode of the What Are We Even Talking About? Podcast serves as a compelling introduction to the personas and perspectives of its hosts, King Christopher and Sir PJ. Emphasizing authenticity and openness, we embark on a journey of self-discovery, revealing our backgrounds, experiences, and the motivations that led us to create this platform. We aspire to cultivate an environment where profound conversations can flourish, and we welcome listeners to join us as we navigate the complexities of life together. Expect a blend of candid dialogue and insightful reflections, as we explore diverse topics with the understanding that nothing is off-limits. As we venture forth, we invite you to engage with us, share your thoughts, and become part of this evolving narrative.

Welcome to the very first episode of the What Are We Even Talking About? Podcast!

We’re just two Libras  — King Christopher (you might know him from One Moment At A Time) and Sir PJ aka PJ Ryan (Creator and Cohost of Highly Melanated and The Dear You Project) — who decided to link up and create a space where real conversations can flow, laughs are guaranteed, and nothing is off-limits.

In this intro episode, we’re keeping it chill — just giving you a little peek into who we are, how this podcast came to be, and what you can expect as we figure it all out together.

Let’s vibe.

Transcript
Speaker A:

I think you just shout.

Speaker A:

Just yell into the microphone randomly and let that be the first thing people hear every single episode.

Speaker A:

Just yell.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

So we are finally here, y' all.

Speaker B:

What's going on, everybody?

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What's up?

Speaker A:

Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker A:

I gotta dial it back for a second because that definitely gave Bad Albert, but in a very, very monotone dry like, hey, hey, he.

Speaker B:

Listen, y' all here getting microphones and sounding foolish.

Speaker B:

This is not just another podcast where two men are talking about and don't make any sense.

Speaker B:

This is.

Speaker B:

This is a real conversation for real adults.

Speaker A:

What's wahita?

Speaker B:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

Listen to it now, because you want to know what we're talking about.

Speaker B:

What's up, King?

Speaker A:

What's up, sir?

Speaker B:

How are you?

Speaker A:

I am amazing, and I am grateful to say how are you?

Speaker B:

I am fantastic.

Speaker B:

I'm actually surprised.

Speaker B:

We're actually really here for the first time.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

And both of us in good moods.

Speaker A:

Fun facts for us Libras.

Speaker B:

Oh, guys, welcome to the what Are We Even Talking about podcast.

Speaker A:

Cause what are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

You know, we're gonna figure out as we go along.

Speaker B:

This is like the first actual inaugural episode kind of so to speak trailer.

Speaker B:

Who the hell are we, who we be kind of situation.

Speaker B:

We're still trying to figure this out.

Speaker B:

So, like, y' all gonna be along for the ride with us.

Speaker A:

I'm really excited.

Speaker A:

And for those that don't know me, because, you know pj and he's amazing and he's well renowned, and I'm like, a very nice.

Speaker A:

No, no, no.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna give you your things before we go go any further.

Speaker A:

I'm a very, you know, small time, you know, making my.

Speaker A:

The biz.

Speaker A:

All the things like, yeah, I've recorded, but never to that level.

Speaker A:

But no, I am really excited to be here having conversations with somebody that I so admire and respect in this space and just grateful that he chose to want to do this with me.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, I can't go any further before saying that.

Speaker A:

And, yeah, that's the last time I'm gonna kiss his ass because it never gave that.

Speaker B:

Real talk, y' all.

Speaker B:

Like, when I tell you something right now, there's not a lot of people who can actually impress me either.

Speaker B:

And I.

Speaker B:

This is gonna be the one of the many times I'm not gonna kiss your ass, but I'm gonna always give you big ups and.

Speaker B:

Ooh, big ups.

Speaker B:

That sounds so new.

Speaker B:

York of me.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

See, you see how yours took you there?

Speaker A:

Cause mine was about to take me another way.

Speaker A:

Cause I was like, look, you can kiss the ass.

Speaker A:

Just understand that there's.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's okay.

Speaker B:

Go ahead.

Speaker B:

FYI, guys, this is gonna happen right now.

Speaker B:

So we want you to come along for the ride with us.

Speaker B:

We are two Libras, and both of us have.

Speaker B:

Sometimes we may go off on a tangent.

Speaker B:

Just stay with us and we'll see what this sounds like.

Speaker B:

And we hope that you are here.

Speaker B:

But no.

Speaker B:

So as I was saying, there's not many people who actually impress me, especially when I hear them speak.

Speaker B:

And you.

Speaker B:

King.

Speaker B:

King Christopher.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's never Chris, everybody.

Speaker B:

So it's King Christopher over here.

Speaker B:

And I was just blown away when I first heard his podcast.

Speaker B:

And I was just like, okay, we have been on several different.

Speaker B:

We have been on several of the same wavelengths.

Speaker B:

And I was like, I think that this would be great if we actually did something together.

Speaker A:

So how do.

Speaker B:

How did you become?

Speaker A:

Well, my mother was really, really young.

Speaker A:

No, I imagine that's not what you mean.

Speaker B:

That is so bad.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

What's so funny is that I'm thinking in my head now as it applies to intros.

Speaker A:

Do you remember that scene from Bring it on where she's having the dream and she's like, I'm bitching, I'm hot.

Speaker A:

I'm everything you're not.

Speaker A:

I'm like, that would be so perfect.

Speaker A:

But no, honestly, I'm not going to say how I became, because, no, I think.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

It's such a weird thing.

Speaker A:

I always tell people as a child, I was always told that I was so intelligent for a young person and that I was so wise beyond my years.

Speaker A:

And I think that that's something that I kind of took on and kind of carried sometimes as like a badge of what?

Speaker A:

And then also sometimes it's a thing that I used in a negative way to, like, try to intimidate other people, whatever.

Speaker A:

But one thing that it really did for me as far as, like, my life and my experiences, kind of being this high school dropout, you know, being out of school for nine years, deciding that I wanted to go get my ged, taking the GED test with no preparation, getting the GED on the first try, immediately going to College, getting a 4.0 within this short period of time, did two semesters, had a really great time, got an associate's, started university, got sick, you know, battled cancer, all the to dos.

Speaker A:

But I think that Whole thing of, like, being a young person and being told, you know, you're so intelligent and you're so wise beyond your years, it kind of instilled something in me that kind of, as I grew and had different experiences, just kind of created a presence.

Speaker A:

And so I think beyond those experiences and feeling like I had stories to tell and things that I wanted to share with people, and also just that idea of like, yeah, bitch, sometimes life is hard, but you can get through it.

Speaker A:

I think it just prompted me to want to, like, start sharing with people.

Speaker A:

And I, on whatever level, kind of being insecure like many people are, and thinking that I was small potatoes and that nobody would want to really hear my voice.

Speaker A:

I didn't think that I was ready to be in that space of, like, okay, well, I'm going to write and publish a book, and it's going to be this great thing, and it's going to sell millions of copies, and I'm going to inspire a nation.

Speaker A:

So it was like, yeah, no, we're going to go press record on Spotify and we're going to put out an episode.

Speaker A:

And if five people listen, then awesome.

Speaker A:

Yes, for those five people.

Speaker A:

And for a while, that was what it was.

Speaker A:

It was me and those five people rocketed out.

Speaker A:

But it was really, really exciting.

Speaker A:

And I was challenging myself to press forward even in moments where I didn't feel like I should or could because it was just like, at this point, we're just pressing record and talking.

Speaker A:

But over time, I feel like I grew and I found my voice and it made me feel even more comfortable in that space of, like, just wanting to share and also, like, wanting to inspire people and inspire myself.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, how did you become.

Speaker B:

It's funnier.

Speaker B:

It's weirder here coming directed towards me, right?

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Well, for those of you who do not know me, hey, y' all, I'm pj.

Speaker B:

For those of you who do know me, hey, guys.

Speaker B:

Hey, guys.

Speaker B:

Hey, guys.

Speaker B:

I usually say the same thing every single way I do.

Speaker B:

To answer your question, I worked in finance for a very long time, and I said, you know something?

Speaker B:

I used to sit at my desk and I used to listen to podcasts to get me through the day.

Speaker B:

Like, literally one of the main podcasts I used to listen to shout out to Kid Fury and Crystal.

Speaker B:

The read those.

Speaker B:

That's actually where I started listening to them.

Speaker B:

And then the brilliant idiots with Charlemagne and that guy Andrew Schultz.

Speaker B:

I said what I said.

Speaker B:

And FYI, as we.

Speaker B:

As we proceed during this journey, y' All I may say a lot of problematic things.

Speaker B:

And I said what I said, and.

Speaker B:

And King is always going to, like, put me in my place whenever I need to be put in my place, and I need that.

Speaker B:

And same thing.

Speaker B:

Likewise, you know, where this is not a space where the both of us are going to always agree on different topics or whatever we're going to talk about.

Speaker B:

This is a space where we decided to create that is going to be a new venture where we are just being more vulnerable, as vulnerable as we possibly can be when we're free or we feel comfortable.

Speaker B:

Like, this is our safe space to just, like, really let our hair down, even though the both of us are bald.

Speaker A:

I was like, I already took off my bra.

Speaker A:

I'm real comfortable.

Speaker B:

Let's do this.

Speaker B:

But I have.

Speaker B:

I was started out listening to podcasts, and I used to say, you know what?

Speaker B:

I actually want to do a podcast.

Speaker B:

And this is before podcasts became popular.

Speaker B:

So I started out with the Dear you project.

Speaker B:

And I do want to first, before I even talk about mine, your podcast that you had before this, it was called A Moment in Time.

Speaker B:

And I do want to let our listeners know that it's worth a listen.

Speaker B:

If it's still up and running.

Speaker A:

She's somewhere out there.

Speaker A:

She is somewhere out there.

Speaker A:

One moment at a time.

Speaker A:

It was my beautiful little pet project where I felt like, I have the audacity.

Speaker A:

Somebody's gonna want to hear this.

Speaker A:

Why not?

Speaker B:

And that's how I felt about the DAU Project.

Speaker B:

And I created it where it was a space where I had people writing a letter and then we would have conversations and vulnerable.

Speaker B:

Be vulnerable with each other.

Speaker B:

And it was a.

Speaker B:

I loved that space.

Speaker B:

And then I stopped doing it because I felt like I was going through stuff as a person who deals with manic depressive, bipolar disorder, as well as, some would say, borderline personality disorder.

Speaker B:

The doctor has not said that, so that's why I don't say, okay, because that's not what my psychiatrist and my psychologist have said to me.

Speaker A:

They never told me that.

Speaker B:

So, you know, y' all go ahead and diagnose me all y' all want to, but I started that.

Speaker B:

And then at the same time, highly melanated, which is available.

Speaker B:

Both of these are still available now.

Speaker B:

And highly melanated.

Speaker B:

It was a great journey.

Speaker B:

And it's four of us.

Speaker B:

Well, they started out as four.

Speaker B:

Now it's just three.

Speaker B:

Between myself, PJ Blair, and Chris, AKA Red.

Speaker B:

Not this Chris, Another Chris.

Speaker B:

And sidebar.

Speaker B:

I don't even Know why I'm addressing this, but I think that this is growth.

Speaker B:

Because for some reason, all you Chrises seem to be popping up in my life.

Speaker B:

And I'm just now okay with all of you Chris's being in my life as Chris's Chris.

Speaker A:

I said call me.

Speaker B:

But I.

Speaker B:

How I became.

Speaker B:

I became a traveler throughout this life and trying to figure myself out and fucking up along the way and understanding that, yo, like, we all go through, no one is perfect.

Speaker B:

So how can I use my story to help people?

Speaker B:

And you talk about inspiration.

Speaker B:

That's where it came from.

Speaker B:

That's like.

Speaker B:

I've always wanted to inspire people.

Speaker B:

I've never want to be famous.

Speaker B:

I don't even want people knowing what I look like.

Speaker B:

To be honest with you, even when I decided to become an actor, I was just always so self conscious because I didn't want people all up in my face.

Speaker B:

I'd rather you hear my voice because I know what my voice sounds like.

Speaker B:

Hey, y' all all, you know, but the both of us, as you can see, we.

Speaker B:

We know how to use words, okay?

Speaker B:

And we use them well.

Speaker B:

Vocabulary, vocabulary.

Speaker B:

But I do know that I talk a lot, so I wanted to, like, how about I start a show with someone else who talks just as much as I do listen, but makes sense when he talks.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, that's how I became.

Speaker B:

And that's how we are here.

Speaker B:

We met on a streaming app that shall get no names.

Speaker A:

Y' all don't need to know her.

Speaker A:

She ain't nobody.

Speaker B:

But we had a show once upon a time called the Bald Head Council.

Speaker B:

And this kind of emerged from that, to be honest with you.

Speaker A:

Hello, New York.

Speaker A:

And it was.

Speaker A:

And it was so impeccable.

Speaker A:

Just kind of piggybacking off of that, that show from a structural standpoint of anything that I've done that I could say that I was proud of.

Speaker A:

I was very grateful to have come together with people and kind of built a concep and built something that I felt very confident about.

Speaker A:

Like, no matter what was going on, I felt like the flow, the organization, everything that it was, was really, really great.

Speaker A:

Some of the people involved, yeah, you can't win.

Speaker B:

We can't win.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But from a structural standpoint, I was very proud and I felt very, very grateful to have been a part of that, especially working with people that, again, like, when you get to work with people that you look up to in spaces where you feel like they've already accomplished so much and they've done things could only aspire to do.

Speaker A:

And now they're trusting you to sit at the table with them and be a part of a journey.

Speaker A:

It's like.

Speaker A:

It's a really dope thing.

Speaker A:

So I was grateful for that.

Speaker B:

This is also, in my.

Speaker B:

In my mind, this is what it's all about.

Speaker B:

Like, we can all win, and there's room for all of us in every aspect and in this space where there's not a lot of, you know.

Speaker B:

Now I think what.

Speaker B:

For the past couple of years, mental health has been, like, on the forefront of, like, everybody's conversation.

Speaker B:

But I think that Covid had the girl shook.

Speaker B:

Okay, listen, we're gonna get into that someday.

Speaker B:

But, you know, when it comes down to actually being authentic and being real and being genuine, who you are, number one, there's no one else that you would want to go to but a Libra for that.

Speaker B:

So I always knew that if I created something, it would have to be with another Libra.

Speaker B:

And I was just, like, blown away.

Speaker B:

Like, how alike King and I would would sound and do things alike, but then still very different.

Speaker B:

And I think that in these spaces, that's where we are.

Speaker B:

That's where be.

Speaker B:

So for you guys out there, told y' all listen what they told you.

Speaker B:

All right?

Speaker B:

And those who tell you anything, we're gonna have full episode one day on the the.

Speaker B:

The the ins and outs of being with the Libra, understanding what we are.

Speaker B:

And we're not going to do that today.

Speaker B:

We don't want to scare y' all away.

Speaker B:

And if we do scare y' all away to be here.

Speaker B:

Okay, you big man.

Speaker B:

You gotta think big.

Speaker B:

But as you can see, both of us are a little goofy at times.

Speaker B:

And I think that that's going to be a great thing for actually welcome you to take this journey with us.

Speaker B:

Wherever this may go, I will follow him.

Speaker A:

You've been listening to our voices for about five minutes.

Speaker A:

We have been sitting here for about 55 minutes in regards to our being goofy because we could not get it together.

Speaker A:

However, hello.

Speaker A:

And we're doing it w a W e T a podcast or waita podcast.

Speaker A:

So, pj, what are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

You know, since that's the name of the podcast, I think it's good to say, where are we from and how did it make us who we are?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And that was intentional.

Speaker B:

But no, we're here.

Speaker A:

And yo challenge me.

Speaker A:

I'm with it.

Speaker A:

So initially born.

Speaker A:

Not initially, like, you know, at first, I was born in Tallahassee, Florida, the same place as my mother as I was saying earlier when you asked, how did you become.

Speaker A:

My mother was very young when she had me.

Speaker A:

She was 15.

Speaker A:

And I don't really know how to define how it shaped me.

Speaker A:

I always tell people my mom married two military men, so we kind of bounced around.

Speaker A:

I've lived in several cities and states, so to say how that really shaped me I can't say concretely.

Speaker A:

However, I can say that a lot of the different places that I've lived and the experiences that I've had have been.

Speaker A:

Definitely made me adaptive.

Speaker A:

I find that it's very easy for me to become comfortable in spaces with people once I feel welcomed.

Speaker A:

It's definitely not giving a, hey, I'm Christopher.

Speaker A:

What are you guys up to?

Speaker A:

But, you know, if you make me feel welcome and you kind of usher me in and let me know that it's a safe space, I definitely feel comfortable.

Speaker A:

I feel like I can adjust to different settings because of that.

Speaker A:

You know, just my upbringing and the fact that we were kind of always so on the go.

Speaker A:

But then also, I think on some level, another thing that it shaped, which I'm learning to work through through therapy, I think that it's made me have abandonment issues, which is always fun because I struggled, like, as a kid, like.

Speaker B:

Oh, maybe that way left.

Speaker B:

Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker B:

Just.

Speaker A:

Just put it out there.

Speaker A:

Um, I have it as a kid, like, not really wanting to get too close to people because it's like, well, damn, I made a friend and I thought we were gonna be cool.

Speaker A:

But next semester we moved and now we're at another school and it's a big to do.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's definitely something that, through therapy, I've been working through and learning to overcome.

Speaker A:

And I'm grateful for.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's my take.

Speaker A:

What about you?

Speaker B:

Born and raised here in Brooklyn, New York.

Speaker B:

I'm from Brownsville, Brooklyn.

Speaker B:

If anybody doesn't really know about New York, or at least Brooklyn, Brownsville is always been in the top five murder capital of the country.

Speaker B:

And I do realize that I do not sound as if I'm from Brownsville.

Speaker B:

And that's because at 16, my parents made the wonderful decision based on me being expelled to move to New Jersey.

Speaker B:

And we moved to Union, New Jersey, which was a complete culture shock because we were the only black family within a five block radius, just about.

Speaker B:

And so, like, that was like the first time I ever been called a nigger.

Speaker B:

Like all.

Speaker B:

All of the things, all of the racism, I've never really experienced that until I moved into a Fully almost all white space.

Speaker B:

And then learned how to like, maneuver and move through that.

Speaker B:

Still being very New York about it.

Speaker B:

But then learning Jersey is somewhat similar, but just very different.

Speaker B:

And I became how I am and where I am based on the experiences.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

Hello again, New York.

Speaker B:

As you can see, in New York, I don't.

Speaker B:

I don't live in a house.

Speaker B:

I live in a building.

Speaker B:

And we went from building living to suburbia.

Speaker B:

And now I moved back to New York to help take care of my grandmother.

Speaker B:

My grandmother has since passed on.

Speaker B:

It's just myself and my uncle left here in New York.

Speaker B:

And the only reason why I'm still kind of presently staying here is no one.

Speaker B:

Covid.

Speaker B:

Covid said, hey, I said, by the time I turn 40 also, y' all, we are men of a certain.

Speaker B:

Which is an important part of me, at least now where I am in this life.

Speaker B:

But I said, you know, I want to.

Speaker B:

By the time I turn 40, I'm.

Speaker B:

I need to get out of here.

Speaker B:

And Covid said, really, bitch?

Speaker B:

You thought so you thought hope.

Speaker B:

And I sat my black ass all down and stayed here.

Speaker B:

Now what, four or five years later, I'm still here in New York.

Speaker B:

And I realized that one of the main reasons why I'm still here is because my little cousin, she is still in high school and it's just me and my uncle and her left here in New York.

Speaker B:

Everybody else is scattered throughout the country.

Speaker B:

I would love to leave New York and have space, not have people on top of me giggity in ways that I really do love.

Speaker B:

But you know, and I think also that's how, that's what made me like being from New York is very ingrained in who I am and how I interact with people.

Speaker B:

Also, since there are such an array of people here helping me understand that everybody's different, not everybody's the same.

Speaker B:

And just like seeing people for who they are, what they are, where they are, especially in their journey, has really helped make me, I think, a more well rounded individual.

Speaker A:

I love that I never knew that you wanted to leave New York.

Speaker A:

Like, have you, like in considering it, have you already mapped it out in your mind, like where you could potentially go?

Speaker B:

Or here's the crazy thing, right?

Speaker A:

When people would ask me where do.

Speaker B:

I want to go, for some random ass reason, Texas would be the first thing that I would say, right?

Speaker B:

But here's the thing.

Speaker B:

I have never been to Texas.

Speaker B:

Texas is an open carry state.

Speaker B:

I'm a negro.

Speaker B:

I don't feel comfortable, to be honest with you.

Speaker B:

And this is me based on my experiences.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

And it's a very, very red ass state.

Speaker B:

And I felt that I just want to, number one, be somewhere where I know it don't snow.

Speaker B:

So Texas is always a place that popped in my head.

Speaker B:

But hey, as of lately, who knows?

Speaker B:

Every year, climate change.

Speaker A:

Every year for the past three years, snowing in Dallas and in Houston.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And so it's always been like my family, some of my family lives in California, some lives in Georgia, some lives in North Carolina, some lives in South Carolina, some lives in Florida, some lives in Ohio, some lives in Michigan, some lives in Kansas, some lives in Oklahoma.

Speaker B:

So like, there are options and I do want to go where family is because I'm a family guy.

Speaker B:

Giggity.

Speaker B:

So not giggity, but I just said family guy.

Speaker A:

So I guess I got it.

Speaker B:

We're here as long as y' all are here.

Speaker B:

But yeah, I wanted to leave New York because again, it's just we pay so much for so little.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I, I'm actually at the age where like, I realized like, I like to stay at home now.

Speaker B:

So the whole like the city that never sleeps doesn't entertain me anymore.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, it's time.

Speaker A:

That's funny that you said that.

Speaker A:

Prior to moving to Texas, I had gone to Dallas once, I went to visit and I was like, this is different than anything that I'm ever used to.

Speaker A:

I want to be here.

Speaker A:

Let's make it happen.

Speaker A:

And I, like, I want to say maybe two months later, I was there.

Speaker A:

The only thing for me is that the difference is I'm so used to being in the South.

Speaker A:

Like most of the places that we've ever lived have been southern states.

Speaker A:

So I think those were never things that I considered as far as like the red state situation.

Speaker A:

I'm like, most of the states that I've ever lived in have been predominantly Republican as far as it being an open carry state.

Speaker A:

Girl, stay over there, like, keep your guns there.

Speaker A:

Thank you very much.

Speaker A:

But no, I think it's so interesting that you say that because like, that for me was like always it.

Speaker A:

I was like, big place, plethora of opportunities, just the, you know, the biggest state in the country.

Speaker A:

Just a wide range of things to do, places to see, experiences to have.

Speaker A:

And I think for me, when it came to the idea of like, where do you want to build a life for yourself?

Speaker A:

It was in a place where I felt like, number one, community, number two, never feeling limited to any specific setting or experience.

Speaker A:

It's like oh, well, you can go here and you can do these things, or you can come over here and maybe do something else.

Speaker A:

Like, I think in certain places, it's like, well, you can go to the movies, you can go to the park, you can go to eat, you can go bowling.

Speaker A:

But having a place that's just so broad and has so much to offer, I think that was definitely the thing to me.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

That's so funny.

Speaker A:

I never knew in all the conversations that we had that that was something that you considered.

Speaker A:

That's awesome.

Speaker B:

As much as you would think there's to do here, there's really not a lot to do here.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Which is weird to say that, like, because that's a complete contradiction.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker A:

That was notifying me that my dog is dead.

Speaker B:

That is literally the first time I've ever seen a human other than you.

Speaker A:

Other people live here.

Speaker A:

I'm just very isolated from them.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker B:

FYI, guys, I'm gonna put.

Speaker B:

I'm keep this in.

Speaker B:

So we are both dog owners.

Speaker B:

We have a dog.

Speaker B:

So we have a dogs.

Speaker A:

We have a dogs.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And one of my dogs constantly paces back and forth.

Speaker B:

So you may hear him.

Speaker B:

He's old.

Speaker B:

He's 16.

Speaker B:

Shout out to Mr.

Speaker B:

Wilson.

Speaker B:

The other one, she is sitting on the windowsill wanting to know where the people are.

Speaker B:

She wants to be where the people are right now.

Speaker B:

So once we're done, I'm gonna take her out.

Speaker B:

And you too, are a dog owner.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And my dog is not here because he is a pug.

Speaker A:

And like many dogs of his breed, has a form of apnea.

Speaker A:

So there is no way that we would possibly be able to get through this with him present.

Speaker A:

Which is why somebody just came to let me know that he's downstairs because I put him there.

Speaker A:

Because if he was not, you would consistently hear what you would think would be an old man snoring in my bed.

Speaker B:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

Listen to it now.

Speaker A:

I think what makes.

Speaker A:

What helps me, and it helped me for a long time at this point, it just makes me feel comfortable.

Speaker A:

But what helps me in a lot of ways when it comes to things that I've experienced is being able to joke about them and being.

Speaker A:

To see the fact that people can't take the fact that I joke about it.

Speaker A:

People will literally be like, I can't laugh about that.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker A:

Did he really just say that, Christopher?

Speaker A:

And I'm like, yeah, bitch, what do you mean it's funny?

Speaker A:

Laugh.

Speaker A:

Like, we're here.

Speaker B:

So I say this all the time, and I think.

Speaker B:

Let's see if the listeners actually agree with this.

Speaker B:

Like, in everything, there's always a little bit of humor, a little bit of racism, and a little bit of perversion in everything.

Speaker B:

You can find it in there.

Speaker B:

So my mind always goes to one of those places.

Speaker B:

You know, this is a space for the black and brownies, so all of you others, you can have a seat.

Speaker B:

If you have any questions, comments, and concerns, please save them for the end of the show.

Speaker B:

Please write them in, but don't interrupt us while we're talking, please.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker B:

That's nice.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker B:

It's never given that.

Speaker B:

Sisters, y' all all right.

Speaker B:

Brothers, y' all all right.

Speaker B:

Okay, listen, I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm feeling my Erykah Badu phase right now, especially since you just talking about Dallas, Texas.

Speaker A:

I Fun fact unrelated to any previous conversation, and I say that so often.

Speaker A:

I literally could.

Speaker A:

Had the opportunity to meet her.

Speaker A:

I was in a car accident where I totaled my car, had the.

Speaker A:

One of the worst car accidents that I had ever seen or experienced.

Speaker A:

Pulled my.

Speaker A:

The police came.

Speaker A:

They were like, you know, either you can have it towed, or we're going to tow it for you.

Speaker A:

Pulled my car out of the street, parked it.

Speaker A:

And as soon as I get my car parked, Erykah Badu pulls up in a gray Porsche with her top down, gets out of the car in one of the coolest outfits that I have ever seen in my whole entire lifetime in person, puts money into the parking meter and hits the block like she's an everyday, regular fucking person.

Speaker A:

And that's just what the fuck you do in Dallas.

Speaker A:

Like, I live here.

Speaker A:

These are my streets.

Speaker A:

Nobody's gonna bother me.

Speaker A:

I'm just about to.

Speaker A:

To go over here into this building, and I was with a friend, and they were like, no.

Speaker A:

Sometimes celebrities don't want to be bothered.

Speaker A:

Don't say anything.

Speaker A:

You never know.

Speaker A:

She might not want any attention.

Speaker A:

And I was like, I'm literally about to just start singing a song because I just wanted her to know, babe, I know you, and I love you, and I just want you to know that.

Speaker A:

I say hi, but she's like, I.

Speaker B:

Know you love me.

Speaker A:

So my friend was so scary, and I didn't.

Speaker A:

I missed out on an opportunity.

Speaker A:

But, like, yeah, that was one of the coolest things that I've ever experienced was almost.

Speaker A:

Or having being in the same direct vicinity as Erykah Badu and being frightened into not saying hi.

Speaker B:

See, that reminds Me, I think we're gonna have a lot of like.

Speaker B:

That reminds me of the time kind of moments.

Speaker B:

Like I remember there was a moment.

Speaker B:

And I think this is also geared towards a lot of what.

Speaker B:

What I'm doing now.

Speaker B:

This is right before the pandemic.

Speaker B:

I had just quit my job.

Speaker B:

I was working in finance for what, almost like 15 years.

Speaker B:

And I said, you know, I wanna be an actor.

Speaker B:

I wanna be an actor.

Speaker B:

And I said, you know what?

Speaker B:

Let me quit this.

Speaker B:

Nine to five salaried, very well paid for a person who does not have a college degree, which always made me.

Speaker B:

And we'll probably talk about this in depth later.

Speaker B:

Made me feel like I was stuck where I was because I went through three years of college and then had to like, leave because of, you know, real life situations.

Speaker B:

And to be honest with you, for all of you out there, I've never had a desire to go back.

Speaker B:

When it came down to like getting my degree in what I was really going for, which was like psychology and sociology and pre law.

Speaker B:

I just said school wasn't for me, even though I was really great at it kinda.

Speaker B:

But I was better at being social.

Speaker B:

So I was walking down the street and after I had quit my job and I've been doing all this acting things for such a long time, but it really wasn't lucrative.

Speaker B:

Like I wanted it to be.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And I'm like struggling.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not.

Speaker B:

So this is where the jersey kicks in.

Speaker B:

So I'm not used to being broke.

Speaker B:

And most Libras, we don't like broken furniture, broken English, we don't even like broken people.

Speaker B:

So, like.

Speaker B:

And we're not here trying to fix you unless we're.

Speaker B:

Unless we feel like we need a project for a little while, then we might take you on.

Speaker B:

But that's again, another conversation for a much later date.

Speaker A:

Because we can go.

Speaker B:

We can go and we.

Speaker B:

But I was walking down the street and it was December.

Speaker B:

This was around the time the Queen and Slim came out.

Speaker B:

Okay, So I was walking down the street and I was just like, God, I need a sign.

Speaker B:

Am I supposed to go back into corporate?

Speaker B:

Because, like, the audition culture is really.

Speaker B:

It's heavy.

Speaker B:

Especially as someone who does suffer from depression in the way that I do, where it just literally comes out of nowhere without rhyme or reason.

Speaker B:

And it affects me in different ways.

Speaker B:

That's not consistent.

Speaker B:

Because I could be depressed right now and nobody would really know it.

Speaker B:

Like, right.

Speaker B:

I mask it really well until I can't mask it any longer.

Speaker B:

And that's why disappear?

Speaker B:

And I was walking down the street and I was like, oh, my God, what am I gonna do?

Speaker B:

What am I gonna do?

Speaker B:

I was like, God, give me a sign.

Speaker B:

Give me a sign that I'm actually walking the right path.

Speaker B:

Also, Mike aunt had just passed away, and it.

Speaker B:

That was very devastating for me.

Speaker B:

And I said, God, give me a sign if I'm moving, if I'm moving in the right direction, and if I'm going the way I need to go.

Speaker B:

And soon as I said that, walking down Easton Parkway in Brooklyn out of her Uber pops, Lena Waithe, I knew.

Speaker A:

You were gonna say a big name.

Speaker A:

I in my mind the whole time, I was like, oh, he's gonna say somebody big.

Speaker A:

I felt that, yo.

Speaker B:

And mind you, I don't really get starstruck often because I do work in this industry and I've known.

Speaker B:

I know I'm not connected connected, but I'm pretty connected.

Speaker B:

So, like.

Speaker B:

Like, for it to be Lena Waithe, I'm a really huge fan of all of her work, especially as a writer, as a person who wants to get into film, especially back then.

Speaker B:

And I was Ms.

Speaker B:

Waithe.

Speaker B:

It's just Lena, hey, how are you doing?

Speaker B:

And the first thing she was asking me was, you know, have.

Speaker B:

Have you seen Queen of Slim?

Speaker B:

I said, I would love to see.

Speaker B:

I would love to see it, but my aunt just passed away.

Speaker B:

Then she asked me stuff about her, and then I started telling her she wanted to hear what.

Speaker B:

What's her life story?

Speaker B:

What was she like?

Speaker B:

And I, for some fact, that this woman just wants to sit here and have this conversation with me.

Speaker B:

It's just, like, beyond, you know, whatever.

Speaker B:

I'm like, oh, my God, I'm still, like, having palpitations.

Speaker B:

And then I told her about a project that I've been thinking about and working through, which is from the DU project, and she said, all right, whenever you're ready, here's my information.

Speaker B:

Here's my people.

Speaker B:

Send your script over.

Speaker B:

And, you know, now that I say this again out loud, realizing that that script has not been sent over is my fault.

Speaker B:

Hey, New York.

Speaker B:

It's my fault.

Speaker B:

And I want to put myself back in these spaces, which is why, you know, this is created because, you know, as New York goes in the background, I'm realizing that I'm rambling.

Speaker B:

So what are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

W A W E T A dot podcast or WAWIDA podcast.

Speaker A:

Let me tell you what's so hilarious to me even now.

Speaker A:

So for everybody that is going to, at some point, Discover us on social media.

Speaker A:

The funniest thing to me is that when trying to determine what we were going to name the social media handle, you were kind of going back and forth between it, and it was like, you know what?

Speaker A:

We're just going to acronym it.

Speaker A:

It's going to be great.

Speaker A:

Nobody's even going to think about it.

Speaker A:

And it became Waita Podcast.

Speaker A:

And at this point, like, I told him, I was like, I want to get shirts, I want stickers.

Speaker A:

Let's get headbands.

Speaker A:

Like, I really want to push Waita.

Speaker A:

And everywhere we go, everybody's like, what's Waita?

Speaker B:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

And you should go listen to it.

Speaker B:

Now, because you be asking them, yo, really, what are they even talking about?

Speaker B:

But for us, when you ask us, it's probably because we've already changed the subject, like, four or five times.

Speaker B:

And there may be a time later down the road where, you know, a little elevation is introduced to our conversations.

Speaker B:

And you'll know that when that happens.

Speaker A:

By elevating structure some order.

Speaker A:

Let's.

Speaker B:

We're going to get into the flow of that before we bring in the gummy bears.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker B:

Yeah, okay.

Speaker B:

So, like, we're going to also work out our frequency.

Speaker B:

Life happens.

Speaker B:

But here's the thing that Christopher has been really big on, especially on his personal social media, about, like, this word that I struggle with, which is consistency.

Speaker B:

And in order to be consistent, for me, I know that I need a partner who's going to help.

Speaker B:

Who's going to help hold me accountable, and that's this guy right here.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, because, like, bring your ass, bitch.

Speaker B:

Because we were supposed to record last week to.

Speaker B:

To do this, and it just wasn't going to happen.

Speaker B:

There was just too much going on.

Speaker B:

But life does happen.

Speaker B:

But you will hear from us once a week.

Speaker B:

Wherever you stream your platform, you will find us.

Speaker B:

Wherever you stream your favorite platforms.

Speaker B:

Find us.

Speaker B:

Wherever you stream your.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you.

Speaker B:

You go ahead.

Speaker A:

You can find us wherever you stream your favorite podcast.

Speaker B:

You see how easy and simple that was for you?

Speaker B:

We hope that you really like what you're about to hear.

Speaker B:

And, like, for those of you who want to know more about us.

Speaker A:

You mean I won't wanna call me on my cell phone?

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker A:

So honestly, you can actually just hit me up on Instagram.

Speaker A:

I am worried about wtfyd on all platforms.

Speaker B:

What does that even mean?

Speaker A:

It means worry about what the fuck you're doing.

Speaker A:

And it's so funny because initially, when it came about I just started saying it.

Speaker A:

Random tangent, now that we're here.

Speaker A:

But I just started saying it because, like, I got so tired of Stan culture.

Speaker A:

And they would sit on social media and do all these think pieces about the people that they hated.

Speaker A:

And I was just so very of this simple, idealistic mind state that, like, oh, I don't like something, so I'm not gonna subscribe to it.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna focus on myself and what is important to me and what I do.

Speaker A:

Like, as opposed to, like, going on and on and on about Nikki and Cardi and whoever else I hate in the moment.

Speaker A:

And I don't know, like, I just started, like, really in conversation, almost rudely to people.

Speaker A:

Started telling people all the time, like, bitch, worry about what the fuck you're doing.

Speaker A:

And before you knew it, I realized that, hey, social media.

Speaker A:

There's nobody else on social media with that name.

Speaker A:

So I'm gonna take it while I can before somebody else grabs a hold.

Speaker A:

And now that's me.

Speaker A:

Instagram, X bluesky, Snapchat.

Speaker A:

All the girlies.

Speaker B:

Come on.

Speaker B:

All the girlies.

Speaker B:

Okay, Mind you, I am Philip James because it started out as, like, a play on Phil.

Speaker B:

Cause it used to be Phil Nominal.

Speaker A:

I remember that.

Speaker B:

And Wonderfill.

Speaker B:

Those still exist, by the way, which I love.

Speaker A:

Because the wonderful me.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

I am wonderful.

Speaker B:

But I believe in the.

Speaker B:

I am and I am.

Speaker A:

Fill me with your wonder.

Speaker B:

See, here we go.

Speaker B:

See now, sorry, but it's.

Speaker B:

I am IAmPhilipJames.

Speaker B:

If you want to follow me individually.

Speaker B:

But while we're here, follow us at.

Speaker A:

WA T a dot Podcast or Waita Podcast.

Speaker B:

We should make a song about that.

Speaker A:

Coming?

Speaker A:

Waita.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I know.

Speaker B:

Little girl, you know Waita Waita who live up the street.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, she owe me $5.

Speaker B:

All right, so thank you for taking the time to listen, y' all.

Speaker A:

If you would like to find us on social media, you can do so on Instagram.

Speaker A:

Wawita W A W E T A.

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

Acronym podcast.

Speaker A:

So that is wawita Podcast.

Speaker A:

If you want to send us an email, questions, comments, concerns, you can do so@wawida.castmail.com that is W A W E T A.castmail.com.

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About the Podcast

What Are We Even Talking About Podcast
WAWETA
Our mission is to create a welcoming, open-minded community where everyone feels empowered to share and grow. We believe in embracing diversity, and we’re committed to fostering a safe space that respects and celebrates all experiences, identities, and backgrounds. Here, we encourage exploration and new perspectives on relationships, self-healing from childhood traumas, musical expression, and the stories that shape us. Together, we’ll share laughs, reflect deeply, and recognize the small and big things we’re grateful for, building connections that are both meaningful and transformative. Let’s learn from each other, support each other, and grow together.

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