Episode 2

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23rd Jun 2025

Stop It! What Are You Afraid Of?

Have you ever let fear get in the way from reaching your goals or let it control your life. Don't worry we have to at some point. This podcast episode delves into the intricacies of personal growth and the profound impact of self-perception on confidence. Don't let fear take over your life.

Ask yourself... What does fear mean to me? Where does this fear come? Is it real or it imagined

  • Ryan Coogler
  • Rotten Tomatoes
  • Michael B. Jordan
Transcript
Speaker A:

I've gotten a lot better as far as, like, when I look in the mirror and I feel more confident, but back in the day, it was a definite no.

Speaker A:

And now when I look at pictures of me when I was younger, I'm like, fuck, if I was out here thinking I was the shit.

Speaker A:

Like, I knew I was the shit, then, Damn, I could have been out here.

Speaker A:

Everybody, like, I'm up here at home beating off every day, scared because I think I can't get what I want.

Speaker A:

And I was just out here looking fucking good, like, didn't even know it.

Speaker A:

Young intended.

Speaker B:

Oh, look at that.

Speaker B:

Stuck in our own insecurities because of fear pussies.

Speaker B:

Listen, y' all here getting microphones and sounding foolish.

Speaker B:

This is not just another podcast where two men are talking about bullshit and don't make any sense.

Speaker B:

This is.

Speaker B:

This is a real, real conversation for real adults.

Speaker A:

What's.

Speaker A:

Waita?

Speaker B:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

Listen to it now, because you want to know what we're talking about.

Speaker B:

What's up, King?

Speaker A:

What's up, sir?

Speaker B:

And what's up to all you out there?

Speaker B:

Welcome to the what's it called again?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, yeah, that.

Speaker B:

That podcast where we're going to eventually get to that part, but for now.

Speaker A:

It'S a safe space where you get to realize that we are all a work in progress.

Speaker B:

It's your boy pj, sir.

Speaker B:

PJ Short for Philip James, but PJ works just fine.

Speaker A:

And it's me, King Christopher.

Speaker A:

Just Christopher, if you're nasty.

Speaker B:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first.

Speaker B:

Like, y' all are the real ones.

Speaker B:

If y' all stick around.

Speaker B:

Thank you for those.

Speaker B:

You are coming back after listening to our first episode.

Speaker B:

We welcome you and we love you.

Speaker A:

And we thank you and we appreciate you just so much.

Speaker B:

How you feeling, man?

Speaker B:

How you feeling?

Speaker A:

I am amazing.

Speaker A:

It's been a really good weekend.

Speaker A:

It is almost the weekend.

Speaker A:

I cannot wait because the weekend is my time to just be Everything else gets to exist in the universe.

Speaker A:

I'm just going to be.

Speaker A:

I'm like.

Speaker A:

I literally.

Speaker A:

Like, I tell people all the time, like, hey, if you want me to do anything or if you want me to go anywhere, ask me during the week.

Speaker A:

During the weekend.

Speaker A:

I am.

Speaker A:

I am a vessel.

Speaker A:

Like, literally, there's nothing to.

Speaker A:

There's no output left.

Speaker A:

I've given it all to the week, and now I'm just going to chill.

Speaker A:

It looks like relaxing.

Speaker A:

It looks like self care.

Speaker A:

It looks like whatever I feel like doing in the space of my solitude, because I don't have it for other people.

Speaker A:

Don't come over.

Speaker A:

I'm not coming over.

Speaker A:

I'll see you on Monday.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, how are you?

Speaker B:

This week has actually been pretty cool.

Speaker B:

Pretty chill.

Speaker B:

You know what, to be honest with you, I've been feeling in a real reset mode that's been, like, welcoming and inviting versus, like, intentional and a chore, if that makes sense.

Speaker A:

It does.

Speaker A:

I fuck with that.

Speaker A:

I like that a lot.

Speaker B:

And so, like, I treated myself to a movie the other day.

Speaker B:

I saw Sinners.

Speaker A:

How did you like it?

Speaker B:

You know?

Speaker B:

Okay, so, ladies and gentlemen, this was.

Speaker B:

Obviously, this is opening weekend when this is when this is recorded.

Speaker B:

So I thoroughly enjoyed it because I am fond of the way Ryan Coogler, actually, he produces, and he puts his hidden meanings and messages behind what it is that he's producing and making, the reasons why behind it.

Speaker B:

So I enjoyed it.

Speaker B:

That was a long about roundabout way of me trying to say, if you're not into Ryan Coogler as a.

Speaker B:

As a producer or, you know, in other movies that he's made, they're all very similar as far as his creative style, which I adore.

Speaker B:

You may not get it and not like it just.

Speaker B:

And you won't like it because you don't get it.

Speaker B:

That's what I feel.

Speaker A:

I get it.

Speaker A:

I'm probably gonna go see it on Saturday.

Speaker A:

I've been like.

Speaker A:

It's crazy because I think it's been a long time since I've seen a movie, and I'm sure there have been other ones that I probably just didn't pay attention.

Speaker A:

But I think this is the first time in a while that I've paid attention and heard of a movie getting 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker A:

Like, everywhere you go and anybody that you talk to, they're like, oh, 10 out of 10.

Speaker A:

One of the best movies I've ever seen.

Speaker A:

So I'm interested.

Speaker A:

I haven't seen a trailer of any sort.

Speaker A:

I have no idea what the movie is about.

Speaker A:

All I know is Michael Bo Jordan.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

Yeah, let me tell you this right here.

Speaker B:

That's exactly how I went into it.

Speaker B:

So I went into it with the intention of.

Speaker B:

I saw the very first trailer.

Speaker B:

And the very first trailer literally had.

Speaker B:

It was like three seconds long, and it was just a bunch of jump shots and five seconds approximately.

Speaker B:

And that's all I saw.

Speaker B:

But I enjoyed it for that.

Speaker B:

And I think I've learned to like a lot more movies going into that way.

Speaker B:

Like, having no idea what the premise is.

Speaker B:

And just so it's like, you know, you're just going with less expectation to, you know, it's just.

Speaker B:

It's the line from Spider Man.

Speaker A:

What's the line?

Speaker B:

That's the line about what Zendaya's character said to Tom Holland in reference to not setting expectations and being less disappointed.

Speaker A:

I was trying to get it.

Speaker A:

I was like, zendaya, Spider man, what they talk about.

Speaker B:

But it makes sense to me.

Speaker A:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker A:

And there's somebody listening who it made sense to as well.

Speaker A:

And that's what matters.

Speaker A:

Y' all connected right now.

Speaker A:

You just made a friend.

Speaker B:

What's up, y' all?

Speaker A:

We are going to start by breaking the ice.

Speaker A:

And how do you break the ice?

Speaker A:

You break the ice by warming it up.

Speaker A:

And so I'm going to start off with some warm up questions.

Speaker A:

Pj, while we're here, I want to ask you, and this is random and off the dome, if you had to think about one experience from your childhood.

Speaker A:

You know, we try to live our life without regrets.

Speaker A:

But one thing that you could go back knowing what you know now about life, all the things you've learned, all the things you've experienced, all the ways you've grown.

Speaker A:

If there was one thing from your childhood that you could go back and do differently without it completely changing the, you know, the course of your life.

Speaker A:

You still want to be who you are today and exist in the world in the way that you do.

Speaker A:

But one thing that you could potentially do differently, what would that thing be?

Speaker B:

How far back of childhood are we going to?

Speaker A:

Wherever you want to go.

Speaker A:

Take me there.

Speaker B:

Take me to there.

Speaker A:

Exactly what I thought.

Speaker A:

It's definitely ringing in my mind right now.

Speaker B:

Take me there.

Speaker B:

I want to go there.

Speaker B:

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm one of those guys who thinks of songs as people are speaking.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, hey, y' all, I'll say this.

Speaker B:

I think that I would have never fallen into the trap of meeting guys on the Internet because that was a load of confidence.

Speaker B:

That was something I didn't have then.

Speaker B:

Um, and so I would tell myself to.

Speaker B:

We're playing a video game.

Speaker B:

He's getting ready to go to bed.

Speaker B:

We're in the dorm room.

Speaker B:

His roommate is out of town.

Speaker B:

So, like, there's two beds in the dorm.

Speaker B:

And so, like, I was going to sleep in the roommate's bed, and he was going to sleep in his bed.

Speaker B:

I'm playing the game.

Speaker B:

And I could remember, I can watch him because the mirror was to the left of the tv and I Could see him, his reflection as he was getting himself ready.

Speaker B:

He was oiling himself up.

Speaker B:

He was basically booty butt naked, but.

Speaker B:

And I was, like, glimpsing, and we kind of were catching glimpses.

Speaker B:

But this was like my first time ever in me actually acknowledging it with someone else kind of way.

Speaker B:

And when he came back out the shower, he sat in his bed, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna turn the game off, you know, if you want to play.

Speaker B:

I said, I'm just gonna lay down.

Speaker B:

So I went to actually lay in the roommate's bed.

Speaker B:

He was like, no, come over here.

Speaker B:

Lay with me.

Speaker B:

And I was like, no, I'm okay.

Speaker B:

No, I'm good.

Speaker B:

I'm good.

Speaker B:

Even though that's not what I wanted, I think that that would have changed the way I looked at love, the way things might have happened for me.

Speaker B:

Which goes against your question.

Speaker A:

Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker A:

But that's okay.

Speaker A:

We're here.

Speaker A:

I would just say, go ahead.

Speaker B:

Go ahead, honey, take a chance.

Speaker B:

That's what I would have told him because it wasn't as big as the.

Speaker B:

I mean, to this day, like, and they know who they are.

Speaker B:

So, like, if they were to ever listen to this and they know I mean by no disrespect whatsoever, that was a big.

Speaker B:

That was a big moment for my cog of being gay.

Speaker A:

So as I was asking the question, I was thinking about the most profound answer, and I wanted to talk about something else.

Speaker A:

However, I will make you aware that you have triggered me and I am going to share a similar story.

Speaker A:

And somewhere in my past life, I was a gangster.

Speaker A:

So I really want to say this person's name and not give a fuck, because bitch, who going to try me about it.

Speaker A:

But I'm going to be respectful because I believe they're in a relationship now.

Speaker A:

And I would hate.

Speaker A:

So with that, there's a person who, for years, for years, I was so very attracted to.

Speaker A:

And at one point, randomly, I don't even know how it happened.

Speaker A:

But you know how you kind of find yourself in this space of, like, exchanging nudes, just being young and horny and sending photos and videos and stroking it this way and bentz over that way.

Speaker A:

A lot of nice things.

Speaker A:

It was a lot of nice imagery.

Speaker A:

There were some very great visuals.

Speaker A:

You are the visual, baby.

Speaker A:

And however it so happened, they ended up being in my apartment with a mutual friend.

Speaker A:

And I'm guessing that up until that point, they had only seen me in a certain light.

Speaker A:

But the mutual friend talked me up to Them and was like, yo, like, don't sleep on that.

Speaker A:

Like, you know, this and that, and he'll give it to you, right?

Speaker A:

And da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

Speaker A:

And this motherfucker came back to my house by himself.

Speaker A:

And to this day, I have never been so disappointed in myself from an experience because on that day, they were ready and they were willing and they wanted to give it to me.

Speaker A:

But I was trying to be on some.

Speaker A:

I don't want to make you feel like a hoe, and I've always had a crush on you, and, you know, let's kind of, you know, da, da, da.

Speaker A:

And, like, even now, like, nothing ever came of that.

Speaker A:

So obviously, like, I took that risk for nothing.

Speaker A:

But, like, to this day, I wish that I would have taken that young person down.

Speaker A:

And because to me, in my mind, the reason that I couldn't was because it's like, okay, we haven't had the conversation about body modifications due to past surgeries.

Speaker A:

There are all these different things that are standing in the way.

Speaker A:

So, like, I can't literally just strip down and put, you know, put the things where the things go.

Speaker A:

And so, yeah, I definitely have a similar experience as to where I definitely regret.

Speaker A:

And of course, I initially I said childhood, whatever, but, like, I definitely, to this day, right now, I can see him in my mind.

Speaker A:

And we follow each other on Snapchat.

Speaker A:

I see him every day posting little videos of himself looking adorable and handsome.

Speaker A:

And, yeah, I definitely wish I would have taken a chance and dropped my load off.

Speaker B:

Wow.

Speaker B:

See, I didn't even take it there.

Speaker B:

I know what you mean.

Speaker B:

Okay, we're here, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker A:

We are here.

Speaker A:

Wata podcast or Waweda Podcast?

Speaker A:

Okay, so with this one, I think I want to take it to a different angle, and this may help for later down the line in the conversation.

Speaker A:

What's one thing that you have experienced fear about within your lifetime that you decided, for whatever reason, whatever reason, you just decided that you were going to overcome it and do it anyway, and now you're grateful for it.

Speaker B:

You know what I think it was the fear of stepping out on my own, the fear of choosing me.

Speaker B:

It's like a Fantasia song.

Speaker B:

Okay, which.

Speaker A:

Which one shall I listen?

Speaker B:

Just which whichever one that makes you feel like you're doing me when you're.

Speaker B:

Like, when you're at a point in your life and you feel like you can't depend on yourself so you realize that you're somewhat codependent and you can no longer be codependent by yourself.

Speaker B:

You have to be able to do it on your own.

Speaker B:

No one else is going to live this life for you.

Speaker B:

So go ahead.

Speaker B:

Go ahead, honey.

Speaker B:

Take a chance.

Speaker B:

That is literally one of my favorite.

Speaker B:

I literally, sometimes, I kid you not, will hear that voice in my head, which will make me go ahead and take that chance.

Speaker B:

And it's like the universe talks to me through that.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, Triggered again, because I don't even know.

Speaker A:

Like, in my mind, I was gonna say something simple, like skydiving, like.

Speaker A:

Cause that was really, really, like, terrifying for me the first time that I did it.

Speaker B:

And that makes sense, but honestly, no.

Speaker A:

But it's like, I'm so, like, inspired by that because, like, okay, I was living in Mississippi.

Speaker A:

I had just graduated from college.

Speaker A:

I'm 34.

Speaker A:

I've never really been in a position based on, you know, foolish choices as a young adult as to where I've been able to be out on my own.

Speaker A:

I have a roommate.

Speaker A:

You know, I just got my first driver's license, my first car.

Speaker A:

I just got my college degree.

Speaker A:

I've started working in my career.

Speaker A:

I'm an accountant.

Speaker A:

I'm driving 45 minutes to work every day, and I'm miserable.

Speaker A:

I'm working for a young dumbass who thinks he knows everything and is trying to, like, ultimately sabotage me.

Speaker A:

And I just.

Speaker A:

I'm not happy and I'm not comfortable.

Speaker A:

And so being in that space, I was in a position where I went to visit a friend in Dallas on a whim.

Speaker A:

I just went and I got up and I drove my.

Speaker A:

I drove the furthest I had ever driven.

Speaker A:

I drove six hours from Jackson, Mississippi, to Dallas, Tex.

Speaker A:

Went, stayed like.

Speaker A:

Did I even stay two nights?

Speaker A:

I might have stayed a night and got up the next day if it wasn't one night.

Speaker A:

It was two nights.

Speaker A:

But whenever it was, I got up, drove back home, and I was like.

Speaker A:

I've always said, you know, me and my best friend used to talk about Texas all the time.

Speaker A:

I've always said, you know, it's such a big place.

Speaker A:

There's so much room for opportunity.

Speaker A:

I think I want to live here.

Speaker A:

And this was in May and in June, on a Tuesday, that that little young asshole boss had pushed me the last time that I was going to let him push me.

Speaker A:

And on Tuesday, I cleared out my desk.

Speaker A:

I waited until everybody left, took all my stuff out of my office, put it in my car, packed up neatly everything that I needed to leave for them so that they can know where to find it, and sent an email to him.

Speaker A:

His boss and the HR director and let them know that they would no longer be seeing me.

Speaker A:

And I packed the bag and a suitcase and moved to Dallas, Texas.

Speaker A:

And I lived in Dallas for three years and thrived, like, literally was in the best financial position of my entire lifetime in Dallas.

Speaker A:

And it was all on the strength of me just saying I could be blowing my life up right now.

Speaker A:

Everything in this situation can go completely wrong, but I'm not gonna think about that.

Speaker A:

I'm just gonna go and I'm gonna do it, and I'm gonna put my all into making it happen.

Speaker A:

And it happened.

Speaker A:

And I've never been more proud of myself.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, there that.

Speaker B:

Oh, I'm so proud of you, too.

Speaker A:

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker B:

That is so fucking dope.

Speaker B:

And I mean, like, that's what I mean.

Speaker B:

Like, ladies and gentlemen, this is also.

Speaker B:

And so occasionally I'm gonna interrupt myself just to give a little disclaimer.

Speaker B:

And I'm only gonna give a few of these because if, number one, if a hit dog will holler.

Speaker B:

So I'm never gonna say your name unless you make me.

Speaker B:

Never gonna get disrespectful.

Speaker B:

This is not this kind of space.

Speaker B:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

But this is a space about experiences.

Speaker B:

And I could just remember what it was like trying to really feel like, can I do this?

Speaker B:

Like, can I live by myself?

Speaker B:

This has been my place now for the past 15.

Speaker B:

This is to be my 15th year living here.

Speaker B:

This wasn't my first apartment.

Speaker B:

This was my second apartment.

Speaker B:

My first apartment I ended.

Speaker B:

Because we ended up living together.

Speaker B:

Obviously, we're talking about an ex relationship.

Speaker B:

We will not be mentioning anything else other than that about said relationship today, But I could just remember that feeling of, like, when.

Speaker B:

Especially when I got my first keys for this place, and I was like, I was so scared to do this.

Speaker B:

And so, like.

Speaker B:

But I'm so glad I did.

Speaker B:

Like, I've accumulated a lot.

Speaker B:

Hence the hoarder in me.

Speaker B:

This is life.

Speaker B:

We're working with me to be better.

Speaker A:

You're a collector.

Speaker B:

I'm a collector of experiences, emotions, feelings, family, things.

Speaker B:

Like, it's all attached.

Speaker B:

Start detaching, though.

Speaker B:

That's for another conversation.

Speaker B:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

Listen to it now.

Speaker A:

Listen.

Speaker B:

In the spirit of, you know, understanding how we don't want to be afraid, here's the thing that I need some of you guys out here to know.

Speaker B:

And this is our segment we like to call let's do Better People.

Speaker B:

If you travel to any metropolitan city or state, and you've never been there, and you're looking at a map or you're on your phone or whatever.

Speaker B:

Crossing the street and standing directly in front of said intersection is not the place you need to be.

Speaker B:

We need you to do better.

Speaker B:

Stand over to the left, Stand over to the right.

Speaker B:

Because you will get pushed down, knocked down.

Speaker B:

Especially here in Brooklyn.

Speaker B:

So, hey, let's do better.

Speaker B:

There are two types of people in this world.

Speaker B:

You ready for this one?

Speaker A:

Go.

Speaker A:

I'm ready.

Speaker B:

Those that walk through a door and don't look back to see if somebody's walking behind them.

Speaker B:

Or those that walk through the door and hold the door open for the next person.

Speaker B:

Let's do better, y' all.

Speaker A:

That's something to think about.

Speaker A:

Hold on.

Speaker A:

Give me a second.

Speaker A:

Before we move too far.

Speaker A:

I just.

Speaker B:

I just want us to think, like, what are we?

Speaker A:

Where we at?

Speaker A:

Is this an office building?

Speaker A:

Is this the mall?

Speaker A:

Where's this door that we're walking through?

Speaker B:

Anywhere?

Speaker B:

How often?

Speaker B:

And so this says something about your character, A person's character.

Speaker A:

Tell me about me.

Speaker B:

Walk through a door.

Speaker B:

Like, let's say you just walked through the door at Costco, and you just opened the door, and then it's somebody running right behind you, but you didn't even bother to look to see if anybody was coming with you.

Speaker B:

You just opened it for yourself.

Speaker A:

It depends on what's on my mind.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker B:

But here's the crazy thing.

Speaker B:

As a Libra, I'm sitting here thinking the other side of it.

Speaker B:

Cause it's always a different side.

Speaker A:

But, you know, no, because in my mind, I'm like.

Speaker A:

It depends on what kind of where my mind is at.

Speaker A:

Because if I'm like, If I have a lot on my mind, if I'm distracted, if I'm, like, rushing to get where I'm going, honestly, I may not.

Speaker A:

So now I'm like, damn, am I the wrong type of person?

Speaker A:

You're like, there's two types of types of people.

Speaker A:

I was like, damn, am I the wrong type of person?

Speaker A:

Because I may very well just keep it moving and be like, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker A:

I may notice it after the fact that I'll say, oh, I'm sorry, and try to correct.

Speaker A:

But it's never intentional.

Speaker A:

I think if I can hear somebody talking behind me, that's what will trigger me to be like, oh, let me hold the door.

Speaker A:

But, like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

Now you got me thinking I might be the other type of person.

Speaker A:

And I might need to reflect and work on that, because what are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

I saw something earlier that was talking about, when was the last time you stood in the face of your own fear?

Speaker B:

And in this reset mode, I've been actually reanalyzing what fear looks like to me now, and I was curious to see.

Speaker B:

Where were you?

Speaker B:

When you think of the word fear?

Speaker B:

What is it?

Speaker B:

What does it do for you?

Speaker B:

To you?

Speaker B:

Where does it come from?

Speaker B:

What does it look like, taste like, smell like?

Speaker B:

Like, what is fear?

Speaker A:

I'm like, it's weird because I'm thinking about it now, and I'm, like, experiencing, like, I don't know.

Speaker A:

It's like a flash came through, and it's like.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

Like, this is the third trigger of the conversation.

Speaker A:

But, like, realistically, like, it's like.

Speaker A:

It's almost like an ache.

Speaker A:

It's like I ache in my bones.

Speaker A:

I'm trembling.

Speaker A:

My heart is racing.

Speaker A:

I might be sweating, I might be cold, depending upon the situation in the moment, but it's overwhelming.

Speaker A:

It's a great sense of panic.

Speaker A:

And I felt it several times.

Speaker A:

I felt it in moments where I've been pulled over by the cops.

Speaker A:

I felt it in moments.

Speaker A:

I felt it, oh, I'm going to get really, really deep and really, really vulnerable really, really quick.

Speaker A:

I wasn't expecting to let it all hang out like this so quickly, but here we are, and now y' all are here.

Speaker A:

So I fe.

Speaker A:

When I was on the way home, driving on the interstate, trying to get home 50 minutes out on the way to my mother, knowing that she could have died, and then getting the call that she did.

Speaker A:

I felt it then just that fear of, like, I have to hurry up and get home.

Speaker A:

Like, I have to see her.

Speaker A:

I felt it leading up to being diagnosed with cancer.

Speaker A:

The first time that I had a tumor, but that it was not cancerous, and then being told after the fact, well, we ran the scans again, and it actually is cancer.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I felt it quite a few times, and for me, it almost feels crippling because it's one of those things as to where it's like, it heightens so many emotions.

Speaker A:

It can bring about sadness, it can bring about confusion.

Speaker A:

It can bring about anger, just depending upon what the different circumstances.

Speaker A:

But it's so that I think the main thing that I think about is, like, just it being overwhelming and sometimes feeling smothered by it and feeling like.

Speaker A:

And you know what?

Speaker A:

Thinking about it now, because eventually Once we get further into the conversation, I'm going to shift and we're going to be in so much greater of a place.

Speaker A:

But I'm thinking to myself now, as it applies to fear, what you were talking about probably was something more along the lines of like just, you know, fear and how we overcome that.

Speaker A:

Whereas for me right now, I'm in that space of just being like, bitch, I was scared.

Speaker A:

I thought I was going to die and I thought they were going to die and I thought I was going to jail, like that type of shit.

Speaker A:

And what do you do in the face of that?

Speaker B:

What's fucking with.

Speaker B:

I really need people to stop saying, if that was me, I woulda.

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker B:

No, you don't know what you would have done because you were not the same person in somebody else's body.

Speaker B:

Your dopamine levels, your fear, whatever, your things don't react the same way.

Speaker B:

Logic doesn't happen the same way because some people can't even fucking read.

Speaker B:

How you gonna tell me what the fuck you woulda did, bitch?

Speaker B:

You can't even read how to get out the door.

Speaker A:

Woo, sorry.

Speaker B:

Let's just take out those bitches.

Speaker B:

We here at Waita.

Speaker B:

We don't.

Speaker B:

No, I can speak for both.

Speaker A:

We support you bitches.

Speaker B:

We do, we do.

Speaker B:

Y' all all here just understand, do better.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker A:

What is your experience of fear?

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

I think for me, like I said, like, it's just that shit kind of just can break me down.

Speaker A:

But like, how does it show up for you?

Speaker B:

It shows up very still, very silent, very mute.

Speaker B:

It's suffocating, it's grappling, it's very.

Speaker B:

Just bite me.

Speaker B:

Just apocalypse.

Speaker B:

Okay, Zombie just.

Speaker B:

I give up.

Speaker B:

Like I'm scared.

Speaker B:

I'm scared to keep moving, keep going.

Speaker B:

And that's what fear does for me.

Speaker A:

I didn't know where you were going with that because I was like, why the zombies?

Speaker A:

I was like, why are the zombies fighting us?

Speaker A:

What's going on?

Speaker B:

Meaning, like it's easy for me to just give up.

Speaker A:

I got you.

Speaker B:

Because sometimes I'm scared to fight because fighting can result to winning or losing.

Speaker B:

What if I just give up and then we don't have to worry about it?

Speaker B:

That's what fear looks like.

Speaker B:

Self sabotage.

Speaker B:

On a consistent basis.

Speaker B:

Fear looks like just laziness coupled with project after project after project after project after project.

Speaker B:

But not finishing either project before you start a new one.

Speaker B:

Fear looks like sitting at home by myself sometimes because I don't want to be outside because I'm afraid That somebody may see me or like me or me like someone or me piss someone off or someone piss me off, you know, like, so let's stay in a safe space, like it's safe here at home.

Speaker B:

So, you know, that's what fear looks like.

Speaker A:

It's amazing that you're me.

Speaker A:

Like, it's amazing that, like, when you say things, I'm like, listen, I don't know who gave you the key to my diary, but you give it back.

Speaker A:

You give it back right now.

Speaker A:

Because nobody told you that you could read that.

Speaker A:

But no, like, seriously though.

Speaker A:

let me tell you, coming into:

Speaker A:

And not necessarily, you know, this, this thing that happened and it was unexpected and now I'm scared.

Speaker A:

You know, of course that's something that you can't control.

Speaker A:

But within things that are happen things that, like, let's say if there's something that I want to do or an experience that I want to have, or maybe something that I'm doubting myself about or guessing myself on or feeling maybe insecure, I feel so good in this space where I am now of being able to say, hey, this doesn't have to be perfect.

Speaker A:

Fuck what it looks like.

Speaker A:

I'm not going to overthink myself out of this.

Speaker A:

I'm just going to do it.

Speaker A:

And whatever happens, even if I don't get the results that I want, even if ultimately it doesn't, nothing really comes from it, at least I.

Speaker A:

I can feel really, really, really good about giving it a shot, committing to myself and making myself proud, knowing that I did it regardless of what fear was trying to do to me in that moment.

Speaker A:

I've learned to really appreciate the value in that.

Speaker A:

prior to that was coming into:

Speaker A:

I don't think I've ever, like, it wasn't a New Year's resolution kind of year, but it was more.

Speaker A:

So I'm gonna get a planner and I actually write down things down and I'm going to actually create some structure and organization in my life and I'm going to kind of tell myself exactly what I want things to look like and how I want to move.

Speaker A:

And I felt really proud of myself.

Speaker A:

And then the year started and everything fell to shit.

Speaker A:

And I felt so incredibly disappointed because I was like, wait, I prepared.

Speaker A:

Why are things turning out the way that I wanted them to?

Speaker A:

And over time, after I had a mental break and took a month off of work.

Speaker A:

Thank you, fmla.

Speaker A:

I got to a place where, before I realized it, everything that I was wanting to do, all the ways I wanted things to look like, everything that I had prepared for, it started to fall in the flow.

Speaker A:

I just needed to take a break.

Speaker A:

I needed to get off of that.

Speaker A:

Like, I needed to get off the roller coaster and just kind of take a moment and stop and be still.

Speaker A:

And then everything kind of started to align for me.

Speaker A:

But for me, that's been the biggest thing for me lately is just looking fear in the face and saying, you know what, girl, I ain't got time for this.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna do it.

Speaker B:

You know, it's easy to say, you know, just do it.

Speaker B:

But there's a process, and you can't just do it automatically.

Speaker B:

Then it's just.

Speaker B:

Doesn't just happen naturally, you know, you gotta force yourself.

Speaker B:

And I've talked about this numerous times, and I've always talked about the idea of, like, just taping, taking a leap of faith, like.

Speaker B:

But some people just don't know how or don't think that that's it or just won't.

Speaker B:

I don't really have anywhere to go with this.

Speaker B:

I just know that there's an opposing side that's like.

Speaker B:

Like, valid in a way.

Speaker A:

Two things.

Speaker A:

So you just brought up one, because I was gonna say one thing and then you brought up another.

Speaker A:

So I will challenge that, because every professional, I don't even know what you would call them like, but gold medalist, Olympic swimmer, before they knew that they were an Olympic swimmer, didn't know how to swim.

Speaker A:

And they either were thrown in or they had to jump in.

Speaker A:

And it was like, okay, bitch, either you're gonna drown or you're gonna get it.

Speaker A:

And so in that regard, it's like, okay, so what are we going to do?

Speaker A:

You're here now, you're in the water.

Speaker A:

What are you going to do with this opportunity?

Speaker A:

So that's one thing.

Speaker A:

And then what was so funny about what you said was that I literally, as we were entering this space to record this podcast, had just finished posting a motherfucking TikTok.

Speaker A:

And the Very first line of the TikTok said, it's easier said than done for those who only say and never do.

Speaker A:

But it becomes a easier to do once you stop saying it and try to do it.

Speaker A:

And I feel like I've said that for so long to people.

Speaker A:

It's like that whole thing of it's easier said than done.

Speaker A:

It's like, well, it's only because you're saying it so much, if you actually do it, it might become easier to do it than to say it, because think about how much effort and energy it takes to actually say it so much.

Speaker A:

But if you just start doing it, the more you do it, the better you become.

Speaker B:

It's like all those bitches who say things behind people's back but can't say it to their face, you know?

Speaker A:

And again, we support the.

Speaker B:

Oh, you.

Speaker A:

We love you all, but is she.

Speaker A:

They.

Speaker A:

Them.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

This is a very safe space, y' all.

Speaker B:

Y' all.

Speaker B:

Hello.

Speaker B:

I mean.

Speaker B:

And if anybody.

Speaker B:

Listen.

Speaker B:

Pause the.

Speaker B:

Some of the opinions and words expressed are from Sir PJ and Sir PJ alone, okay?

Speaker B:

So if you want to attack anybody, please, directly, you know, if I say anything, if King says anything, please let us know.

Speaker B:

We are not above correction.

Speaker A:

But watch how you talk to me, though.

Speaker B:

Let me explain that to you right there.

Speaker B:

It's all in tone and texture, baby.

Speaker B:

Okay?

Speaker B:

Tone and texture.

Speaker B:

Those are my two words that are my triggers.

Speaker B:

Who the fuck are you talking to?

Speaker B:

But I think that also comes from, like, a fear dynamic.

Speaker B:

I've been thinking a lot about Bring it back.

Speaker B:

How a lot of how I react on a daily basis can be a sum of something that happens through fear.

Speaker B:

So, like, for this week, I decided to, like, you know what?

Speaker B:

Let me.

Speaker B:

Instead of just doing the same thing, the same routine, let me just do something a little different for myself, for my mental health.

Speaker B:

Like, so I don't feel so stagnant.

Speaker B:

So I don't feel like a NPC in a video game program to just go home, go to work, come home, go to work.

Speaker B:

So, you know, I.

Speaker B:

And I enjoyed myself just.

Speaker B:

And not even do anything wild and crazy.

Speaker B:

Just like, how dare you say that?

Speaker B:

You can't go straight home.

Speaker B:

It's your life.

Speaker B:

Do what you want to do.

Speaker B:

That may sound small or it may sound very big, depending on who you are, but for me, in that moment, it meant something.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Sure did.

Speaker A:

I gotta get there this summer because I've gotten to a point now where I am in a prison that I pay for.

Speaker B:

I don't want to cut you off with that.

Speaker A:

No, no, you're fine.

Speaker B:

Ladies and gentlemen, write that down.

Speaker B:

If y' all ain't, write that down.

Speaker B:

Rewind that right back right quick.

Speaker A:

A prison that I pay for.

Speaker A:

I, like, I work from.

Speaker A:

And then this is my existence.

Speaker A:

Like, I work from home, so it's like, I work here, I live here.

Speaker A:

It's literally me and my dog.

Speaker A:

I'm in a place now where I've.

Speaker A:

This has been home before, but I've been gone for a long time.

Speaker A:

Even before moving to Texas, I was in Mississippi for years.

Speaker A:

So I'd only come home here and there.

Speaker A:

So it's one of those things where most of my local friends that I had before either gone or we've kind of fallen and out of touch.

Speaker A:

So I'm literally in a place where I don't really know anybody.

Speaker A:

I have my family here, but my family, they all have their own lives.

Speaker A:

I work from home, I live here.

Speaker A:

I don't go anywhere.

Speaker A:

Nobody comes to see me.

Speaker A:

So it's almost like I've created this space of isolation for myself, unintentionally so, because I'm definitely not.

Speaker A:

I didn't plan to become this recluse, but it's happened.

Speaker A:

And anytime that I talk to somebody about it and how I want it to be different, they always recommend, well, you know, save up some money and go on eventbrite and find out what's going on in the area and buy some tickets and do the things.

Speaker A:

But going back to what you were saying earlier about codependency and that being something that I need to overcome as far as this fear that we're talking about, I don't like the idea of going places where there are a lot of people and I don't know anybody there.

Speaker A:

It's not even.

Speaker A:

And I don't even think that it's.

Speaker A:

Is it.

Speaker A:

It might be fear to a small degree.

Speaker A:

There may be a twinge of fear in there, but I think it's more so just discomfort.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't.

Speaker A:

I like spaces where at least if I'm not in the know of everyone that's around, I have somebody there with me that can kind of help ease me into the comfort of being there.

Speaker A:

So, like, I don't know, like, I have to get to that space this summer because I'm tired of, like, yeah, I've created this beautiful space for myself.

Speaker A:

It's very aesthetically pleasing.

Speaker A:

I'm very comfortable.

Speaker A:

I'm always buying some shit to put in this motherfucker.

Speaker A:

But I don't really.

Speaker B:

You would become like me, as you see, interesting, because I am the same, but the complete opposite.

Speaker B:

I feel so much more comfortable in a space where I don't know anybody and no one knows me than being in a space where everybody knows me and I know everybody.

Speaker B:

And that has a lot to do with my, My interaction with people, you know, my delivery choice, my, you know, whatever mood I'm in, whatever's going on.

Speaker B:

You know, it depends on a lot of factors when it comes to a lot of people that know me, and I know that them.

Speaker B:

But if you don't know me and I don't know you, this is us getting to know each other so I can be more myself because there's no standard I have to set.

Speaker A:

I covet that.

Speaker A:

I, I, I, I can honestly say I want that.

Speaker B:

And I thought about it, but then it's.

Speaker B:

You still can.

Speaker B:

Nude beaches.

Speaker B:

Hear me when I say this.

Speaker B:

There's something freeing about being around a bunch of naked people and not really focused on the obvious.

Speaker B:

Like, it's just something like, that's humane about.

Speaker B:

I like it.

Speaker B:

I had never seen so much coochie all in my life.

Speaker B:

So much peanut all in my life.

Speaker B:

Different shapes, colors, aged hair.

Speaker B:

I can go through a lot, but it really forced me to see them and them see me and, like, be around people and just see people for who they are versus what you look like under your clothes.

Speaker B:

In your clothes.

Speaker A:

You did this little shoulder shrug.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

Y' all can't see him, but you did this little shoulder shrug.

Speaker A:

And all I could think about was, please tell me it has a club cuff.

Speaker B:

Ah, you know what hearty horror.

Speaker A:

You did this little shoulder shred.

Speaker B:

I don't even remember when I did it.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't remember.

Speaker A:

I was trying to think of exactly what you said when you did it, but, like, I, I now got away from it for too long.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So there you go.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, like, I definitely.

Speaker A:

But going back to our original point of view of what are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

I do want to start doing that more, and I do have that desire to be that person that can kind of, like, go to a place full of strangers and kind of just create a vibe or, like, join a vibe or feel like, hey, hey, I'm.

Speaker A:

Because I'm very much the.

Speaker A:

If you make me feel welcome, I'll loosen up, let my scalp down, and from there, you know, engage.

Speaker A:

But if I don't feel comfortable or if nobody kind of makes Me feel invited in a space.

Speaker A:

It's kind of like, okay, so I was brave enough to come and I'm here by myself and I, you know, I had a drink or two, and I've stayed at least 30 minutes.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna go home.

Speaker A:

And I've literally done that to the point where I've driven like 45 minutes from home to go out to a bar just to prove to myself that I could.

Speaker A:

Because I told my therapist that I.

Speaker B:

Would shout out to therapy.

Speaker A:

And I literally, like, went, had two drinks, stood at the bar, kind of looked around.

Speaker A:

People watched for a while.

Speaker A:

But it was like, first of all, caveat, if you ever see me, if you do decide to scroll up on any of the social medias and you think I'm handsome, thank you so much.

Speaker A:

I appreciate that.

Speaker A:

I think I'm handsome too.

Speaker A:

However, please understand that I have no desire for any type of romantic relationship with anybody.

Speaker A:

God bless you on your journey.

Speaker A:

I don't go out with the intention on looking to meet people for, like, potential dates or hookups.

Speaker A:

I just like the idea of, like, oh, well, maybe there's some cool people here that I can make friends with.

Speaker A:

Especially if I'm in a new place.

Speaker A:

Like, a lot of times, like, over the past several years, when I moved to Dallas, I was in a new city, new state.

Speaker A:

I moved from Dallas to Houston.

Speaker A:

New city, new job, new atmosphere.

Speaker A:

I'm like, kind of getting to know this environment.

Speaker A:

So I'm always looking for somebody because, I mean, you can't just look at a person and say, like, oh, they seem cool.

Speaker A:

Let me invite them over here to talk to us.

Speaker A:

Because you don't know, bitch, I might be a fucking serial killer.

Speaker A:

But if nothing else, maybe like, oh, that's a nice shirt.

Speaker A:

He's aesthetic.

Speaker A:

Like, he looks like somebody that dresses well.

Speaker A:

Or maybe like, oh, he's here.

Speaker A:

Or even like a sympathy vote.

Speaker A:

Like, oh, he's here by himself.

Speaker A:

Like, let's.

Speaker A:

Let's invite him over, guys, like, whatever, just to help somebody feel more welcomed and invited.

Speaker A:

Like, I long for that, but I really do.

Speaker A:

Touching back because, yeah, it's one thing to, like, get up every day and work because, you know, you got to work to make money and taking care of yourself because, you know, it's important to keep yourself healthy so that you can make it through your day, but, like, doing things that you really enjoy.

Speaker A:

It's like, because, yeah, I love sitting and watching something on television that I like.

Speaker A:

And I'm, oh, let me tell you, I like.

Speaker A:

I won't say love, because this chapter has not been my friend, but I like playing Fortnite on said PlayStation.

Speaker A:

That one back there.

Speaker A:

I like to play the game.

Speaker A:

So, like, there are things that I enjoy doing at home.

Speaker A:

But I think one thing that I've longed for for a really, really long time, and I used to be really embarrassed to say this, but now it's like, you know, whatever.

Speaker A:

I really want a tribe, and I feel like I always find a way to make it digitally, like, in the virtual space.

Speaker A:

No matter where I am on social media, I always find my friends.

Speaker A:

I'll make friends on Facebook, and I'll find a way to be in part of these groups or, like, even on Twitter.

Speaker A:

When we first started Twitter, before it was X, like, you know, being a part of all these great conversations we had, all these different crews on Twitter.

Speaker A:

Now in this other space where I stream, like, I've kind of joined a family unit there.

Speaker A:

So it's like, I always find ways to create a tribal situation in digital spaces, but locally and in my personal life, like, and actually in person, I find it so rare now, especially the older I get it, to have local friends.

Speaker A:

And I want to be a part of a friend group.

Speaker A:

I want my sex in the city moment where we, like, travel together and go to lunches and invite each other over to each other's homes to drink wine and talk over our week.

Speaker B:

If you have a good circle.

Speaker B:

But everybody.

Speaker B:

Everybody's circle is a little jacked up.

Speaker B:

But you know what?

Speaker B:

You know what's so funny?

Speaker B:

That you say that a wise man once said, me, pj, how I've been living is find your tribe and then build your colony.

Speaker B:

And I realized that when I started podcasting, it was a call out to, who are you?

Speaker B:

Do you think like me?

Speaker B:

Do you.

Speaker B:

Do you.

Speaker B:

Do you hear what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Does my me saying anything have any value?

Speaker B:

And if it does, and maybe this is the validation portion of it, but understand, if it doesn't have a value to you, then why are you still here?

Speaker B:

Because it has value.

Speaker B:

So just acknowledge it then.

Speaker B:

That part right there.

Speaker B:

Wait, what was I saying?

Speaker B:

What was I really saying?

Speaker B:

What was that?

Speaker B:

What were you even talking about?

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker B:

This is probably why we changed the name to this for this podcast.

Speaker B:

Ladies and gentlemen, Real Talk, both of us combined.

Speaker A:

Oh, now I want it.

Speaker A:

You were saying a wise man once said.

Speaker B:

Yeah, no, I was saying build yourself.

Speaker A:

Like, when I created the podcast.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So all of these are an extension of like.

Speaker B:

Like, you're in my tribe, like, you know, and I believe in us building side with each other, you know, and that's why I'm, like, really excited to go on this journey with you.

Speaker B:

Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker B:

We've talked about this.

Speaker B:

That's why he's like, yeah, sure, I know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, whatever.

Speaker B:

But we've talked.

Speaker A:

No, no, no.

Speaker A:

But, like, I, you know, I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm wishy.

Speaker A:

So I try to hold it.

Speaker A:

Like, no, no, I'm.

Speaker A:

I'm the wishy wood.

Speaker A:

So, like, I try to hold it because, like, we can go there.

Speaker A:

But then also, every time I look behind you, I see this tongue.

Speaker A:

And at first I wasn't.

Speaker A:

But now I think the lights have started flashing colors.

Speaker A:

And so now it's like my eyes are diverting.

Speaker A:

And yeah, I definitely.

Speaker B:

I just wanted to let you guys know because for the listening orders, we can't hear what he is talking about is behind me.

Speaker B:

I am a vintage.

Speaker B:

I love vintage records.

Speaker B:

And so he is looking at Millie Jackson's album titled Feeling Bitchy.

Speaker B:

And there we go again, supporting all the.

Speaker A:

Supporting the.

Speaker B:

No, like, just.

Speaker B:

We're all part of a tribe, and if you out there listen.

Speaker B:

If you out there listening to us and you feel like you are part of our tribe, you know, follow us, do all the things, listen to us, share us with your friends, you know, but no, Yeah, I think now, though, let me say.

Speaker B:

Let me say this, and I'll.

Speaker B:

And I'll.

Speaker B:

I really believe that fear is okay if you can acknowledge what fear really means to you and what it really is.

Speaker B:

Because also, to be honest with you, y' all, ladies and gentlemen, fear is not real.

Speaker B:

Fear is something that we conjure up, up based on whatever insecurity or whatever feeling that you may have of inadequacy, wherever that comes from, that is the root of your fear.

Speaker B:

So, like in psychology today, which is interesting, in my opinion, fear is defined as a natural protective emotion triggered by a perceived threat, real or imagined.

Speaker A:

It's a complex experience that can range from mild to paralyzing and is influenced by both innate biological responses and learned behaviors.

Speaker A:

Fear is a primal emotion deeply rooted in our brains and can manifest in various ways, including physical, emotional, and behavioral reactions.

Speaker A:

It's all about perception.

Speaker A:

Essentially, I think was the root that.

Speaker B:

It'S all about perception.

Speaker B:

Like, it's not real.

Speaker B:

Like, we think about fear.

Speaker B:

Let me ask you, are you afraid to do anything?

Speaker A:

As of today, I'm afraid to fuck in public.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker A:

Well, so taking away.

Speaker A:

No, no, no.

Speaker A:

We can go taking away all of the, you know, parameters.

Speaker A:

Let's say it's in a place where it's legal and it's safe and there's no cause for, you know, fear of danger or, you know, imprisonment.

Speaker A:

Even with those parameters, I think for me it's something about people being able to observe me.

Speaker A:

And don't get me wrong, I like to think that I'm a very, you know, passionate lover and that I perform very well within the moment.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker A:

I like to think that if I was.

Speaker A:

That it would look really nice because it feels good.

Speaker A:

If nothing else.

Speaker A:

However, I just think there's something that puts me in this position to feel incredibly self conscious when being watched.

Speaker A:

So maybe I was being dramatic when I said fucking in public.

Speaker A:

I fear people observing me for too long, which makes it really, really crazy because I always say, and I even say this now when it comes to streaming anywhere.

Speaker A:

I don't understand where I got the audacity because the insecure person that I know myself to be hates the thought of anybody looking at me because I become so self conscious about how my eyes roll when I'm thinking about something or how I use my hands a lot when I talk and about how my posture is off and people just kind of being able to capture all my weird facial expressions and then feeling like I'm a lot more handsome when I'm still.

Speaker B:

Still.

Speaker A:

I think I'm a lot more just me personally, other people, but I think I'm a lot more handsome when I feel.

Speaker B:

I 100% agree.

Speaker A:

So in motion, it's very like.

Speaker A:

And I feel like a crazy person and I.

Speaker B:

Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker B:

You ever been in the moment where you just been.

Speaker B:

Let's say you was like sitting somewhere.

Speaker B:

Like, let's say you were at a restaurant waiting for something and you just randomly just made a stretch with your face because you were just doing it anyway.

Speaker B:

And you just have to look over to your left or your right, someone's staring at you.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Thinking something is wrong with you not knowing.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, I get, I get it, I get it.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, I just, I think that's one of those things for me, I don't like to be observed.

Speaker A:

So I think right now, as far as fear is concerned for me, it's the idea of people paying too much attention to me.

Speaker A:

And that's why, like when I'm out in public, it's very in my phone, very headphones on, very, like in my tunnel vision, in my own zone.

Speaker A:

Because I don't want to even think about the fact that somebody Might be observing me, good or bad.

Speaker A:

I just don't.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's so crazy.

Speaker B:

Mine is the same, but the opposite.

Speaker B:

To be unheard is something that frightens me.

Speaker B:

And it's weird to feel that and then create something to be heard.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

It's weird to feel unexposed.

Speaker B:

You know, you don't want to be exposed, but you create something for exposure.

Speaker B:

So it's like the fear that you have is really what's that most of us have in my experience, or for how I'm like, it's hitting me right now is what you desire the most, you know, and it's.

Speaker B:

I don't know why.

Speaker B:

Well, I do know why.

Speaker B:

Well, from.

Speaker B:

From my opinion, like, why we start.

Speaker B:

Or at least I know why I started or started becoming fearful of thinking that I couldn't do it because I started listening to other people and their feelings instead of them worrying about what the fuck they were doing.

Speaker A:

Okay, you did a play on my username.

Speaker B:

Yes, Baby Wa.

Speaker A:

I was like, that sounds familiar.

Speaker B:

No, but for real, like, that's a part of.

Speaker B:

Also, like, when I'm being heard, am I being understood?

Speaker B:

So that's my main thing.

Speaker B:

Do people understand me?

Speaker B:

And my fear is always being misunderstood.

Speaker B:

That's.

Speaker A:

I get that.

Speaker B:

I think that's my biggest fear now.

Speaker B:

And there are moments where I can say I'm afraid about it.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't want you to, but if it happens, okay, then it happens.

Speaker B:

So it's not like, oh, my.

Speaker B:

Scared.

Speaker B:

I'm not.

Speaker B:

I'm not going to lose a chance.

Speaker B:

At least I know this now when it comes to, like, money, opportunities, boys, girls, you know, whatever else I'm into.

Speaker B:

Men, women, Let me delete all that.

Speaker B:

Delete all of that.

Speaker A:

Interestingly enough, I'm the opposite in the way that, like, I've gotten to a point now where.

Speaker A:

And I'm so grateful for that because it's like you look up one day and realize, like, oh, that's something I don't have to deal with anymore.

Speaker A:

I've gotten to the point now is to where I don't care.

Speaker A:

Because for me, in my mind, I'm responsible for what I present.

Speaker A:

As long as I know that I had the best intentions.

Speaker A:

As long as I know that it was my best effort to be clear.

Speaker A:

And I don't mind.

Speaker A:

I'm not going to dumb myself down, but I can try to find a way to simplify things for you.

Speaker A:

I can try to find a way to maybe explain it in different words to make it more clear.

Speaker A:

But I've honestly got to a place now where I'm not as concerned about being misunderstood because I recognize that the people who are supposed to understand me do and the people who aren't.

Speaker A:

That's okay.

Speaker A:

And I feel good about that because I'd much rather be having a conversation with somebody that gets me.

Speaker A:

It's like, we're here, we connect, we vibe, we understand one another, than having to constantly feel like I'm under so much pressure to over explain or have to, you know, find different alternatives or having to, like, become frustrated with the idea that now I'm having to, like, why aren't you getting this, like, that type of shit?

Speaker A:

And like, nobody wants that.

Speaker A:

Like, nobody wants that.

Speaker B:

And this is the difference, I think, the major between September Libras and October Libras, because this is the Virgo side of you that's like.

Speaker B:

It's like love's hangover, y' all.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And I'm on a Scorpio end, so, you know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker B:

I see that.

Speaker A:

But I love that too, because, like, I.

Speaker A:

I've always said, like, in regard to people that I know, I don't think I've ever come across a person where I felt so very connected in the way that I feel like I can be so, so much like a person and so much different from a person at the same time.

Speaker A:

So it's so interesting how I think there are so many commonalities that meet us in the middle, but then I have stuff over here and you have stuff over there, so that's cool.

Speaker B:

Which is good.

Speaker B:

Also like that I think that's your tribe doesn't have to necessarily all think like you.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

I mean, be yourself, bitch.

Speaker B:

So I made it a point.

Speaker B:

2025.

Speaker B:

And this is what I wanted to do going forward.

Speaker B:

And it's been working for me when this has been happening, happening.

Speaker B:

But I no longer want to be the smartest person in the room.

Speaker B:

I don't want to be the person with all the answers.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

Because how can I learn more if I'm always the one, you know, showing.

Speaker A:

The way w a w e t a podcast or waita podcast.

Speaker B:

This actually ties in with the conversation.

Speaker B:

And this is what I was saying prior to, which is hilarious, that I.

Speaker B:

I'm stumbling upon this aha moment at this moment about fear.

Speaker B:

And is this.

Speaker B:

If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

Speaker A:

You did say that.

Speaker A:

And I posted a status earlier and my ex commented under it and said, say it louder, and then went and copied it and paste Posted it to his profile as if it was his original thought.

Speaker A:

But that status said, if you don't know yourself, it is impossible for me to know you.

Speaker B:

Listen.

Speaker A:

So if you're listening to us now, you know how to listen to a podcast, but you can definitely listen to us on any other platforms where podcasts are streamed.

Speaker A:

If you would like to find us on social media, you can do so on Instagram at Waweda.

Speaker A:

W a W E T A.

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

Acronym podcast.

Speaker A:

So that is Waweda Podcast.

Speaker A:

If you want to send us an email, questions, comments, concerns, you can do so at Wawida Qwerty cast gmail.com that is W A W E T A dot cast gmail.com first of all, I.

Speaker B:

Love the fact that you spell out okay because baby, that's the same I would do okay.

Speaker A:

Cuz why we how you one more.

Speaker B:

Time cracks me up.

Speaker B:

Y' all probably want later down the road probably be like, what the no.

Speaker A:

And you got to get to a point because think about anything, like anything that's ever been a thing.

Speaker A:

The first time you heard it, it's like, what the is that?

Speaker A:

And then before you know it, you've hear many times.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we're trying to make Waita.

Speaker B:

Waita is fetch Wa.

Speaker A:

Get your ass out that street.

Speaker B:

If I ever hear a child's date, Waita would I tell you I'm gonna get her a T shirt.

Speaker A:

See, I've been wanting another dog and so now I might name my second dog Waita.

Speaker A:

That'll be so cute.

Speaker B:

I already know I'm naming.

Speaker B:

I know I'm naming.

Speaker B:

If I was to ever get another one, it would be Jabarcus.

Speaker B:

It would definitely be be or Barquevius.

Speaker B:

It would be some.

Speaker A:

I saw a boy on doing social media.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I saw him talking about that and the lady was on the phone like, can you spell that?

Speaker A:

She said, oh, Lord.

Speaker B:

She said that he looks like he wearing jewelry.

Speaker B:

I am clicking Stop.

Speaker A:

If you would like to find us on social media, you can do so on Instagram at Waita W a W E T A.

Speaker A:

What are we even talking about?

Speaker A:

Acronym.podcast.

Speaker A:

so that is Wawita Podcast.

Speaker A:

If you want to send us an email, questions, comments, concerns, you can do so@wawitacastgmail.com that is there w a w e t a.cast@gmail.com wait.

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What Are We Even Talking About Podcast
WAWETA
Our mission is to create a welcoming, open-minded community where everyone feels empowered to share and grow. We believe in embracing diversity, and we’re committed to fostering a safe space that respects and celebrates all experiences, identities, and backgrounds. Here, we encourage exploration and new perspectives on relationships, self-healing from childhood traumas, musical expression, and the stories that shape us. Together, we’ll share laughs, reflect deeply, and recognize the small and big things we’re grateful for, building connections that are both meaningful and transformative. Let’s learn from each other, support each other, and grow together.

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